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2. THE NEWSGROUP

What is it.cultura.linguistica.inglese?

it.cultura.linguistica.inglese was founded in 1998 by Giovanni Trovato. The newsgroup’s charter as originally voted on, can be found at:

http://www.news.nic.it/news-it/manif/it.cultura.linguistica.inglese.txt

Since its founding, the group has become affectionately known as The Illuminated Realm , and it is our belief that one of our most endearing trademarks is the noticeable absence of arguments, flames, and general ill-will. Which is not to say members do not sometimes hold dissenting views on subjects, merely that we are able to maintain a pleasantly agreeable level of tolerance and decorum when expressing such. We sincerely hope your participation in the group will be in keeping with this spirit.

It is a newsgroup open to all who are interested in the English language; a place to write about and discuss this interest, ask questions, seek linguistic clarification and generally enjoy yourself. (Needless to say, humour is never out of place).

The newsgroup’s home page can be found at:

http://www.TheRealm.knows.it

Thanks for this permanent residence is owed to our most gallant Knight In Shining Armour, Peltio. (Also on the group’s homepage, you will find photographs of some of the members of The Illuminated Realm who held their first real-life gathering in October 1999, in Bologna).
 

Is The Illuminated Realm moderated? No. Whilst there are no moderators for the Realm, there are four democratically elected "Royal Highnesses". In alphabetical order they are: HRH Arianna, HRH Bambi, HRH Isabella and HRH Mary. We are also fortunate in having among us numerous Knights In Shining Armour (K.I.S.A.), an assortment of Privy Counsellors, and other distinguished personages. (For a more fully detailed history you are invited to visit our homepage). What topics are discussed in The Realm? More or less anything and everything is discussed within the group. To be totally In Topic (IT), questions, comments, opinions etc. should in some way have something to do with the English language.

Questions relating to grammar, explanations of English phrases/words, discussions of English literature or indeed any matter having to do with English are welcome. Topics which could cause heated debates on matters not related to English (i.e. politics), are not encouraged however.

What questions/requests are NOT appreciated? An urgent plea for us to do your homework. Members are more than willing to share their knowledge, render assistance, give opinions and point you in a helpful direction, but requests – urgent or otherwise – for an essay/précis/dissertation etc. which needs to be handed in to your professor in a few hours time will receive little sympathy and incur the wrath of many. We are not here to do your work for you or make up for your laziness. You have been warned! 2.1 Before Posting:

Basic Netiquette

Before posting to the newsgroup a few points of Netiquette are listed here so that you might save yourself the embarrassment of committing what is generally considered a faux pas so incurring the ire of Their Royal Highnesses to the point of summoning the Royal Guards to see you off!

First Rule of Usenet: Read the FAQ for whatever groups you're trying to start participating in. Since you're reading this, you're already ahead of the game. Congratulations: not everyone does this. Understanding the information contained herein will save you (and the denizens of the newsgroup) some headaches.

Second Rule of Usenet: After you've read the FAQ, lurk. Read the group you want to participate in without posting for a while. How long is "a while"? Six months. If you can't wait six months, wait twelve. Seriously, this piece of advice is group-specific, but the spirit ispretty useful to remember – in all truthfulness, everything you're going to ask has probably been asked before. Watching the patterns in the newsgroup will let you see this for yourself. Moreover, reading the newsgroup for a period of time without posting will help you get a feel for what the group is like as a social entity.

Third Rule of Usenet: Lurk some more. When in doubt as to the reasons why, see the Second Rule of Usenet above.

Fourth Rule of Usenet: Do not take the newsgroup, yourself, or anyone else involved in a discussion too seriously. It's only Usenet after all. You're going to need a thick skin if you're going to survive in the icky cesspool that is Usenet, so get used to being flamed, and try not to take it personally. This particular group however, constitutes an exception in the vast Usenet landscape, for feuds and flames are conspicuous by their absence. Things that will help keep you from getting flamed too badly:

      • DON’T POST IN CAPS, NEITHER SUBJECT NOR BODY OF MESSAGE . This is basic Netiquette. Using caps equals SHOUTING .
      • Save, save, save: you don’t own the place. Quote, attribute, and trim. When replying to a post, include text from the previous post, include a name, but don't include the entire post. Trim your posts judiciously.
      • Don't post binaries (graphic images) to non-binary newsgroups. (In case you’re wondering, that would be us).
      • Don't post in HTML or with MIME-encoded attachments.
To borrow a phrase, "brevity is the soul of wit.'' This applies to both frequency and content of posts.

Fifth Rule of Usenet: If you don't know very much about Usenet, ask. But don't ask in it.cultura.linguistica.inglese , you'll be in the wrong place. Try asking in news.newusers.questions , and read the articles in news.announce.newusers . On the Web, you can read about "How to make the best use of Usenet news,'' conveniently located at: 

http://home.netscape.com/menu/netet/news2.html .

If you would prefer to talk to your Italian peers, then you can try it.faq and it.news.aiuto
Suggestions on how to use or ‘tune’ your favourite newsreader can be found at it.comp.soft.newsreader . Don’t forget to read the charters of these newsgroups before posting your questions.

Sixth Rule of Usenet: Don't feed the trolls. Trolls are posts that are deliberately inflammatory. If you read something that ticks you off, and it sounds pretty outlandish, don't bother replying. It's just not worth it.

Finding old messages/discussions Should you wish to find a previously posted message, an archive of articles posted on it.cultura.linguistica.inglese (and indeed any other newsgroup) can be found at:
     http://www.dejanews.com/

The site provides an option of searching either a "Current" or "Old" database. "Current" contains articles dating back a few weeks, whereas "Old" goes back to the start of the archive in 1995.

2.2 Acronyms/Abbreviations/Signatures/Taglines
From time to time in various posts within the group, you will come across the following ‘in-house’ acronyms and might wonder what they mean. Since coming to grips with the English language is an arduous enough task in itself, we thought to clarify at least this mystery for you here.
In-house acronyms/abbreviations dtb (found at the end of Bambi’s posts) = de-tribalised Brit – an English person who has been away from England (the tribe) for a long period of time
ICLI = it.cultura.linguistica.italiano; a sister newsgroup to our own focusing on the Italian language
ICLIng = it.cultura.linguistica.inglese a.k.a. The Illuminated Realm
K.I.S.A. = Knight in Shining Armour. There are many in the Realm.
Internet/Usenet Acronyms Posters often make use of Internet acronyms and the following, more commonly used ones are listed for your convenience.  
HTH = Hope this Helps
IIRC = If I recall correctly
IMHO = In my humble opinion [Variation: IMNSHO = In my not so humble opinion]
IT = In topic
LOL = Laughing out loud
OT = Off topic
RL = Real Life
ROTF[LOL] = Rolling on the floor [laughing out loud]
ROTFLMAO = Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off
TIA = Thanks in advance
URL= Universal Resource Locator – in other words, an address for a Web Site
For a more comprehensive list of Internet acronyms, please see:
http://www.utopiasw.demon.co.uk/acronyms.htm


Where does Mary Cassidy get her great taglines from?

Mary’s taglines have rightly won renown within The Realm. Often the question is asked "Where does Mary get her great taglines from?"

The answer to the question is a semi-trade secret. (Hint: Search Engines – See below)

(When the tagline includes a gentleman by the name of Tom, please note that these are known as ‘Tom Swifties’. Also note that once Mary has finished with the aforementioned gentleman, IsabellaZ and Bambi – in that order – have requested the pleasure of the gentleman’s company for their own delectations)

Where does IsabellaZ’s signature come from? Another Frequently Asked Question.

The signature which appears at the end of Isabella Z’s posts is of unknown origin. It was sent to her by a friend who also has not the vaguest notion where it comes from. It is believed to be a verse from a song. If you are able to give a creditable source for it, the group – not to mention HRH Isabella – would be eternally grateful and would very much welcome hearing from you.

2.3 Alternative news servers In the event you experience problems accessing the group via your news server, any of the following alternative servers should be of help:
  news.tin.it
news.cu.mi.it
news.interbusiness.it
news.diesel.cu.mi.it
news.megasys.it


Additionally, the following news server from the University of Berlin, which provides access to over 20,000 news groups, has proved a useful alternative for a number of our posters: 

news.cis.dfn.de
You must register with them which can be done by sending an e-mail to:  news-register@cis.dfn.de


The header/subject of your e-mail should be ‘Registration’. And in the body of the message simply state your name and your e-mail address. You will receive confirmation from them of your username and password within 24 hours. The service is free.

3. WHERE CAN I FIND…? Whilst members are more than willing to answer questions where they are able, please note that many of the simpler questions can be answered by conducting an elementary Internet search. Please bear in mind that in all probability your question has been asked and answered before and after a while it can become slightly wearying to be answering the same question again and again. Below is a list of the some of the more commonly used search engines which will prove invaluable in helping you find what you are looking for. You are strongly urged to make use of them.
 
English Search Engines:
  www.altavista.com
www.askjeeves.com
www.yahoo.com
www.infind.com
www.hotbot.com
www.northernlights.com
www.looksmart.com
www.google.com
www.dogpile.com
 
Italian Search Engines :  
www.arianna.com
www.virgilio.com
www.google.com
www.metacrawler.com
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