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Ciao ragazzi! Molti di voi mi hanno scritto preoccupati del fatto di non ricevere più numeri
della NINlist. Niente paura, il vostro indirizzo non è stato cancellato e la lista non è morta.
Molto più semplicemente gli impegni dell'ultima settimana mi hanno impedito di poter gestire
la lista con la consueta regolarità. Ma ora bando alle ciancie, ho un po' di lavoro arretrato (devo
anche aggiornare i profili) perciò lascio subito la parola a voi:

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:41:31

From: black hat

Subject: woodstock '94


con mio sommo diletto posso dirvi che in un giorno benedetto da non so chi ho trovato il live dei nin a woodstock '94!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
semplicemente ME - RA - VI - GLIO - SO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fra le altre cose, ci sono novità sulla videocassetta e sul cd live??
nonchè (l'altra volta nesusno ha detto nulla..) cosa ne sarà di FINCK???????

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Voci dicono che sia da poco finita la fase di masterizzazione del CD live. Altre succose news si possono trarre dalla seguente intervista tratta dal numero di Gennaio/Febbraio della rivista Rock Sound.
Se qualcuno di voi si offre di tradurla me lo faccia sapere. La traduzione sarà pubblicata anche sul sito.



Currently holed up in his studio in New Orleans, Reznor is busy putting the finishing touches to the next NIN release, a live DVD. After the recent release of 'Things Falling Apart,' which features tracks from 'The Fragile' give a makeover by various members of NIN, Trent has plenty more ideas up his sleeve. One of the main ones being the much-rumored Tapeworm project, with vocals from Tool's Maynard James Keenan and Pantera's Phil Anselmo among others. Trent wants to begin work on that as soon as the DVD is finished, but then there's a new NIN record to be thinking about. Will we have to wait for another fives years to see a follow-up to 'The Fragile'? Apparently not, according to Trent, who took time out to explain all to rock sound.


Why have you decided to produce a Nine Inch Nails DVD and what can we expect from it?

In the midst of the Fragility tour we had a full production together and it was a situation I was really proud of. We realized we needed to document that, and we didn't want to go out and hire a company to film us - we've done that in the past, you get some director's idea of what he thinks the show is. We did one where it was plain shots and it looked like a bad Bon Jovi HBO special kinda thing, so we threw it out. So we decided to make it like what it would be like be at the show. I bought 10 good digital video cameras and gave them out to a couple of guys in the crew and had a couple guys come out with us and just captured the last 10 shows of the tour from seven or eight different angles. It was a massive undertaking. We were gonna have it come out in December, but I made the decision to hold it up. I'd been playing those longs live for a year, recorded them for two years before that, rehearsed them in the midst of that - watching all that footage over again, you start to lose the objectivity as to what was good and bad. It's gonna be good, it's a good documentation of what we've done on this tour.


Do you enjoy the touring, especially on scale that you've been playing live in American?

That's a good question, cos I've been thinking a lot about that lately. I've seen a lot of bands at club level since I've been back in New Orleans. It's so much more fun to play those kind of shows, as a musician, and I think it's so much more fun for the audience too, cos it's real. You can see the band, for one thing. There's no delay where the band's out of sync cos the sounds' traveling 600 miles to back of the arena - you're in a venue that's generally made for music and not sporting events. When we finished the Downward Spiral tour we went out and just said, 'Fuck it, let's play clubs.' We went out for about three weeks and announced the show that day and that was the most fun we had on the whole tour. But then you get the backlash of people going, 'What the fuck man, you play here and by the time I even hear about it, it's sold out already. You're trying to fuck your fans over.' Someone's bitchin' no matter what we do. I feel like touring and I am looking forward to getting back out in some capacity, but the challenge is keeping it fresh.


What was the reason for releasing the recent remix album 'Things Falling Apart'?

Well, remix is not really it. I think remix applies to whatever dance culture's out there at the moment, replacing the rhythm track with speed garage or drum 'n' bass or whatever the fuck it is. Then some asshole DJ whose talentless butt has a name in clubs gets paid to do remixes, and that's totally not what this is about. It stems from when we were recording 'The Fragile', lots of unfinished songs were floating around. A lot of times, some of the other guys in the band would say, 'Hey, you're three-quarters done with this song - let me take it and throw it in a different direction.' This record is basically for fans that want to see some curiosities or look behind the curtains and see the different ways things could have gone. It's not meant to be a big statement. It's nothing to do with what we'll do in the future and the direction I'm taking Nine Inch Nails in at this time. The last three weeks, I've been in the studio writing new music, not thinking about it too much to see what really inspires me right now, and at the moment it's very aggressive but very non-guitar-oriented. So we'll see what happens.


So what direction are you heading in at the moment, musically speaking?

Synth-bass, but real aggressive and not in a synth poppy kinda way. Using the power of samples and electronics in a pretty violent, in-ya-face way - almost the opposite of 'The Fragile', which I consider to be pretty organic and textual. This is more minimal and abrasive.


Will the next NIN record be another double album?

I'm not planning on that. When I started 'The Fragile' I thought it was gonna be eight tracks only per song and I think we averaged about 95, so what was a complete miscalculation.


Were you happy with 'The Fragile' when it came out or did you think it could have been better?

No, I really, rally thought it was done. There was a lot of extra material that we had to be editorial about cos it easily could have been twice that long. When we start weeding things out and we finally got the order of the record together, Alan Moulder and myself both realized it was done. I'm very proud of that record. It's not fashionable in the climate of the kinda shitty music that's out right now, but I wanted to make that record and just get it out of my head.


So what can we expect from the next NIN album?

I'm kinda at a crossroads now where I've realized that sometimes I tend to over-analyze things and plan things out before I've really tried them out. I'd draw the plans for a elaborate house made of some exotic wood and then realized I don't like the way the wood cuts or smells, so I end up building a shopping mall down the street or something' - terrible analogy, but... in my head I think, 'Hey, it'd be cool to make a record like this,' but until I really sit down and start blindly fumbling around and subconsciously seeing what sounds exciting to me.... Right now I want to start a couple of different side-projects outside of Nine Inch Nails as a way to kinda let off steam. A way to work in an arena that's not has high-pressure. I think with NIN I put a lot of pressure on myself to make sure that every aspect of it is a working thing from the lyrics, sonically, to the production ideas.


You've obviously got the Tapeworm project on the go, but what other ideas do you have for side-projects?

I've been looking for a female vocalist to form another offshoot that would just be me and whoever this person might be. I t would be me being very sympathetic to their goal and vision, but I would hand the music production side. If you could juxtapose Sade next to Gary Numan albums of 10 or 20 years ago - I don't mean something that would be so off that it would be shitty, but to get a soulful but icy landscape collaboration, a collision of ideas. It could be a miserable failure but as a way to start off, an idea, that's the way I approach it - some vague idea and just start throwing these things together and see what fits and what doesn't.


What frame of mind are you in at the moment?

I'm energized and excited to be in the studio, it's all been redone, and I want to get in there and change everything that's wrong with music right now.


And what's wrong with it in your opinion?

Well, this is a completely perspective but over here, first of all, hip-hop has take over everything and I like hip-hop and think a fair amount of it is innovative and interesting on a cultural level as well as a musical level. It's real and it has a kinda legitimacy to it where it's not going through the motions. Now, when you carry that aspect over to the rap-rock crap that's out there - the only kinda of rock music is either Creed-type shit that sounds like... I was in the car last night listening to it and if you put a gun to my head I could not tell you - it could've been one of 10 bands, post-Pearl Jam. That means nothing to me besides being a fairly well written song. I don't even let it irritate me cos I'm past the point of being upset about it, but there seems to be an awful lot of fake angst, angry, post-Korn-type rap rock around.

 
So you're not a big fan of Fred Durst, then?

I can understand why a certain demographic likes Fred Durst, I can see why they appeal to people but I don't like them. The lowest common denominator strikes a chord with certain limited-IQ individuals or 13-year-old boys who wanna get laid, but there's a real insincerity in the rock world right now. I don't believe a lot of these bands when they come on whining and bitchin' and singin' in their cookie monster vocals and trying to act tough, there's fat guys from California with tattoos pretending they're black. All that's shit to me. It's follow-the-leader, these guys hung up their spandex pants when Guns N'Roses got blown outta the water and donned their flannel were and went, 'Oh let's go skateboardin', start eatin' cheeseburgers and pretend we're black."


How did you feel about Durst using lyrics from your songs on 'Chocolate Starfish...'?

That's an interesting story where I'd talked some shit about him cos at the time it was annoying me that something that bad could get so much attention and, you know.... He had to do some trash talkin' and then I start hearing, 'Ohh, he wrote a song all about you.' I'm like, 'Oh, OK,' and then it bugged him. Some amount of discomfort was caused by these comments, but dumb-ass uses different lines from several of my songs as the chorus to the title track of his album and then he has to ask me permission to use'em (laughs), which I gave to him. It's not like I'm gonna fuck his album.


If you're not into rap-rock, what's doing it for you at the moment?

I listen to an awful lot of hip-hop, but the new Radiohead record is fantastic. I never really gave them a chance before cos all I really heard was 'Creep' and I didn't really like that song. I just thought they were just another smug slacker band. That was very unfair of me. When their new record came out, somebody sent it to me and I'm impressed with the courage it would take to put a record out like that. I'm also envious that they seem to be on a label that's allowing them to do it and supporting them, something that we didn't have. I think the new Roni Size Reprazent album is fantastic, I saw them at Rockilde and they were the best band I've seen in a long time. The Dandy Warhols are one of my favorite bands, too.


Do you ever get to a pint with NIN where you think you're going to chuck it all in?

I do, and a lot of that comes when the business side and the lawsuits and all that fuckin' shit start over- taking the pleasure of making music. You start thinking, 'Why did I get into this in the first place?' That's another reason why I'm into starting side-projects; it's good to have other avenues to go down.


Ed ora una seire di news tratte da RockOL e segnalateci da:

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:04:06 +0100

From: Salvatore M.


guardate un po'. Forse siamo vicini all'uscita dell'album dei Tapeworm!!!


Gli A Perfect Circle eseguono dal vivo un pezzo dei fantomatici Tapeworm

Gli A Perfect Circle hanno recentemente debuttato dal vivo con una nuova canzone tratta dal misterioso side project Tapeworm (vedi News). Il pezzo s’intitola “Vacant” e dovrebbe essere incluso nell’album dei Tapeworm che è attualmente in fase di lavorazione. Nei Tapeworm, come già annunciato in precedenza da Rockol, dovrebbero esserci Trent Reznor, Phil Anselmo e Maynard James Keenan. Durante il liveshow degli A Perfect Circle sono state eseguite anche alcune canzoni nuove, così come delle cover (ad esempio “Ashes to ashes” di David Bowie).

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 21:05:33

From: Salvatore M.


Ecco come ha replicato Trent alla notizia che gli APC avevano eseguito Vacant dei Tapeworm


Finalmente i Tapeworm di Trent Reznor fanno sul serio

Dopo una lunga attesa, finalmente esce alla luce il progetto parallelo di Trent Reznor, i Tapeworm. Il frontman dei Nine Inch Nails assieme a Charlie Clouser (programmer, remixer) e Danny Lohner (chitarra), sta lavorando sull’album di debutto ancora senza titolo che dovrebbe uscire su Nothing Records entro la fine dell’anno.
Tapeworm è al momento un progetto che vede ruotare attorno a Reznor una serie di ospiti, come il frontman dei Tool e A Perfect Circle, Maynard James Keenan, che ha già cantato in “Vacant”, brano registrato nell’ormai lontano 1999. La canzone, di cui Keenan ha scritto le liriche, è stata composta da Clouser e Lohner. Il brano è stato presentato dagli APT nel corso del loro ultimo tour (vedi news) e la cosa ha infastidito non poco Reznor che si è sentito derubato di un segreto tenuto nascosto per così tanto tempo: “Devo ammettere di essere irritato per il fatto che la canzone abbia debuttato in questo modo prima ancora che sia completata.”

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Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2001 10:47:52

From: Eraserhead44


In estate il side project di Chris Vrenna (Nine Inch Nails)

Il side project di Chris Vrenna, i Tweaker, vedrà la luce questa estate sull’etichetta Six Degrees/Palm. Il disco è intitolato "The attraction to all things uncertain" e ospiterà artisti come Xzibit, Control Machete, David Sylvian, DJ Swamp (Beck), King Buzzo (Melvins), Burton C. Bell (Fear Factory) e Jonah Matranga (Far/Onelinedrawing). Attualmente Vrenna è in studio per dare gli ultimi ritocchi al progetto.

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Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:21:33

From: Jac

Subject: Depeche Mode


Personalmente ritengo che i Depeche Mode abbiano fatto cose molto belle anche prima di Violator!
Certo, Violator è stato prodotto da un certo Flood, ma questo non toglie niente alla genialità dei lavori precedente!!
 
Come non considerare "The Great Reward" che è del 1984, oppure i successivi "Black Celebration" e "Music for the masses"?
Vorremmo superficialmente etichettarli come dischi pop?
Lo trovo molto riduttivo ed un po' superficiale (forse qualche ascolto in più non farebbe male!)... e poi da quando definire un disco "pop" ha una connotazione negativa?
Mica vorremmo fermarci davanti alle etichette!?
La buona musica è buona, indipendentemente se sia "pop"... ed i Depeche stanno ancora oggi percorrendo una strada personale ed originale...
Per non parlare del prossimo album "Exciter" (uscita il 14 maggio, mi sembra di essere l'uffico stampa!), un vero capolavoro... in cui dimostrano di essere molto avanti nei tempi e nelle sonorità! Grandi!!!!
Chi stima i NIN non può mai fermarsi davanti alle etichette, perchè qualcuno mi sa spiegare il "genere" dei NIN?
La prima volta che qualche anno fa ho sentito dire "post-rock" ho avuto le convulsioni dal ridere...
 
Per la cronaca, per la data a New Orleans, il buon Trent è andato ad incontrare i Duran, dopo aver assistito al loro concerto... non oso pensare cosa potrebbe accadere... per qualcuno potrebbe essere un ncubo, per il sottoscritto la realizzazione di un sogno!!
 
Plastic Kiss
 
                            Jac

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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 01:54:24

From: Alessandro Evili

Subject: a chiamata rispondo........


BENE; MI CHIEDEVO GIUSTO CHE FINE AVESSI FATTO CRISTIANO!!!!!!!!!
Approfitto dell'occasione x salutare ogni atomo iscritto alla maining list dei NIN dato che mi faccio sentire così di rado..........
continuo a seguire le vostre "avventure" e sono contento di vedere che ci sono quasi 100 persone (a proposito Zebo, a quanti iscritti siamo arrivati?) sufficientemente intelligenti da aver capito la portata epocale della musica del signor Reznor Trent da New Orleans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
x Dream-Maze: perchè non proponiamo a Trent e soci di esibirsi al prossimo comizio di Forza Italia......no, solo x vedere Silvio Casini Fini Bossi Maroni Buttiglione pogare di brutto sulle note di Head like a hole!
Questa sì che è una provocazione!
Ed è anche la miglior sceneggiatura x un film dell'orrore coi fiocchi!
ora basta scherzare però, siamo in campagna elettorale, poi Fede si incazza e fa uno speciale del tg4 x screditare il buon AlessandroEvili e la Santa Inquisizione buonista-bigotta rovescia quello splendido pulpito che è la NINLIST
 
Giù le mani dal mio cervellino!!!!!!!!!
 
 
saluti a Zebo e a tutti coloro che hanno persi 120 secondi del loro tempo x leggere queste righe infantili, dadaiste, forse profetiche, certamente attizzanti!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 
NoIoNo

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Grazie per i saluti Ale, per la cronoca gli iscritti attuali sono 113! :-)


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Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2001 18:05:14

From: Salvatore M.

Subject:


Una mia amica mi ha fatto leggere una storiella su Marilyn Manson riportata su Smemoranda. Ve la riporto qui di seguito:
 
Marilyn Manson si è rivolto alla magistratura per togliere dalla circolazione un Cd inciso quando ancora si chiamava Brian Warner ed era un giovane cantantucolo senza successo. Il disco contiene tre pezzi: due originali dello stesso Manson, "Inno del bravo boy scout" e "Lettera di un bambino d'oro alla sua mamma", e una cover in italiano di "Carissimo Pinocchio", di Johnny Dorelli. Secondo Manson, il Cd "mette a repentaglio la pessima reputazione che mi sono costruito in anni di sporco lavoro."
 
Non c'è bisogno che vi assicuri la falsità della notizia, però potrebbe essere un'idea scrivere storielle curiose su MM o anche racconti su Trent Reznor (in alcun siti stranieri ogni tanto ne vedo)
Che ne dite?
Un saluto ad Alberto V. che in questo momento forse si starà incazzando per la presa per culo del suo beneamato Manson (in realtà anch'io lo ascolto, ma ha fatto un grosso sbaglio a mettersi contro Reznor: hai notato che ha iniziato la sua discesa dopo aver toccato la cima con AS, ossia dopo il litigio con Trent?)

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